Bioptical Art - SCI-ART LAB2024-03-28T21:44:33Zhttps://kkartlab.in/forum/topics/bioptical-art?commentId=2816864%3AComment%3A84166&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noUtility, need, satiety as a v…tag:kkartlab.in,2012-03-27:2816864:Comment:841662012-03-27T20:43:52.391ZMarcel Charesthttps://kkartlab.in/profile/MarcelCharest
<p>Utility, need, satiety as a vector in the genetic program. I agree. Furthermore, I think a vector exists in a dynamic system; so, movement is involved; where there is a vector, there is a movement. Is it a linear movement? Or is it like a beat? Or, both?</p>
<p>On an even more wide aspect, very recent studies tend to propose that all kinds of intelligece come from a unique model, even if the form of intelligence change.</p>
<p> It is very difficult for Westerners born in a context of…</p>
<p>Utility, need, satiety as a vector in the genetic program. I agree. Furthermore, I think a vector exists in a dynamic system; so, movement is involved; where there is a vector, there is a movement. Is it a linear movement? Or is it like a beat? Or, both?</p>
<p>On an even more wide aspect, very recent studies tend to propose that all kinds of intelligece come from a unique model, even if the form of intelligence change.</p>
<p> It is very difficult for Westerners born in a context of greek, catholic jewish philosophies, , to imagine that man is not the mesure of all things; we evaluate things as if all things were equal, smaller or bigger than man. Scientists of the Renaissance came to America to verify if their newly discovered laws were universal; may be, today, scientists want to go to other planets for the same reason. I think science is always in evolution, that is what it makes it scientific.</p>
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<p> I don't like very much the idea of putting art in a scientific defenition. But, if a painting can be useful to psychology, or any other science, let it be so. By the way, all your scientific researches can be very helpful to art, you know that. What will man do with all this new knowledge? Let's hope for the best.</p> Dear Marcel You're an artist …tag:kkartlab.in,2012-03-27:2816864:Comment:841652012-03-27T19:56:15.471ZLiviu Iliescuhttps://kkartlab.in/profile/LiviuIliescu
<p>Dear Marcel<br></br> You're an artist with great sensitivity. You also have complex compositional imagination.</p>
<p>The celebrity has become more dependent on commercial factors.The talent and the sensitivity are remarkable to many artists, who remain anonymous.<br></br> I am an inventor, not an artist. Attention! My proposals are<br></br> technical and are comparable with the invention of geometric perspective.<br></br> Geometric perspective led to the famous painting, making, famous<br></br> many…</p>
<p>Dear Marcel<br/> You're an artist with great sensitivity. You also have complex compositional imagination.</p>
<p>The celebrity has become more dependent on commercial factors.The talent and the sensitivity are remarkable to many artists, who remain anonymous.<br/> I am an inventor, not an artist. Attention! My proposals are<br/> technical and are comparable with the invention of geometric perspective.<br/> Geometric perspective led to the famous painting, making, famous<br/> many artists.<br/> I have tested Bioptical Art on the man standard (not just on the intellectuals)<br/> I had the satisfaction that I found positive psychological influence,with<br/> primitive effects caused by bioptical stimuli.</p>
<p>Please see a little bit of philosophy (link) <b><a href="http://www.binocular-rivalry.ro/c15.html">15. Psychical satiety in affectivity</a></b></p>
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<p><b>The modalities that I propose</b> may be valorised by arousing a wider interest, if the <b><i>fine art artists, by using traditional techniques and their talent</i></b>, will create complex compositions with bioptical stimuli. on one hand, Bioptical Art will bring developments in <b><i>research of psychology, neurology and psychiatry,</i></b> and, on the other hand, it will give possibilities to the <b><i>field of aesthetics</i></b> to supplement chapters such as: <b><i>disinterested interest, art as sensorial experience, art dependent knowledge</i></b> and others<b><i>.</i></b></p>
<p><br/></p> I guess tears are diamonds.tag:kkartlab.in,2012-03-27:2816864:Comment:841632012-03-27T11:51:16.064ZMarcel Charesthttps://kkartlab.in/profile/MarcelCharest
<p>I guess tears are diamonds.</p>
<p>I guess tears are diamonds.</p> Dear Marcel. See my recently…tag:kkartlab.in,2012-03-27:2816864:Comment:841622012-03-27T07:11:06.346ZLiviu Iliescuhttps://kkartlab.in/profile/LiviuIliescu
<p>Dear Marcel. See my recently blog : "Bioptical Art" (Blog; in this network)<br></br><br></br>Write me if you get fusion; it is essential.<br></br><br></br>My studies are developed over 50 years and are based on exploitation<br></br>visual sense. My expertise includes knowledge of the visual sense; point of view psycho-physical.<br></br>I have <a href="http://www.binocular-rivalry.ro/"><b><u><font color="#0000FF">www.binocular-rivalry.ro</font></u></b></a> <b>:…</b> <a href="http://www.artabioptica.ro/"></a></p>
<p>Dear Marcel. See my recently blog : "Bioptical Art" (Blog; in this network)<br/><br/>Write me if you get fusion; it is essential.<br/><br/>My studies are developed over 50 years and are based on exploitation<br/>visual sense. My expertise includes knowledge of the visual sense; point of view psycho-physical.<br/>I have <a href="http://www.binocular-rivalry.ro/"><b><u><font color="#0000FF">www.binocular-rivalry.ro</font></u></b></a> <b>:</b> <a href="http://www.artabioptica.ro/"><b><u><font color="#0000FF">www.artabioptica.ro</font></u></b></a></p>
<p>It contains descriptions of the four monographs, I was the author<br/><br/>To see what is my position, expertise of Google<br/>post: <b>fine art visual sense pictures</b><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2961176246?profile=original"></a></p>
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<p>See the image that belongs to me:</p>
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2961176183?profile=original" target="_self"><img class="align-center" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2961176183?profile=original" width="286"/></a></p>
<p>Then titles that relate to my sites:</p>
<p>12. visual-sense –storming ; The paired off visual signal Liviu Iliescu</p> Dear Liviu,
Animals who se…tag:kkartlab.in,2012-03-27:2816864:Comment:838912012-03-27T00:33:01.142ZMarcel Charesthttps://kkartlab.in/profile/MarcelCharest
<p>Dear Liviu,</p>
<p> Animals who see two different images in succession interprete both images at very high speed. I wonder if while an eye looks at something, the other is blind. I ask because when the animal concentrates on one image, you can show him anything to the other eye, there is no reaction. But you have to be fast to observe. On another subject, I noticed that when a human injures an animal, the animal always reacts; but, sometimes, when the animal hurts himself, even harder,…</p>
<p>Dear Liviu,</p>
<p> Animals who see two different images in succession interprete both images at very high speed. I wonder if while an eye looks at something, the other is blind. I ask because when the animal concentrates on one image, you can show him anything to the other eye, there is no reaction. But you have to be fast to observe. On another subject, I noticed that when a human injures an animal, the animal always reacts; but, sometimes, when the animal hurts himself, even harder, there is no cry from the animal. I wonder if there is a link between the three situations.</p>
<p> On another subject, I think that our eye followes an object in movement like a doted line, not like a full line. The dots are so thin, we think our eye makes full line.</p> Dear Marcel
Thanks for messag…tag:kkartlab.in,2012-03-26:2816864:Comment:839982012-03-26T17:15:24.020ZLiviu Iliescuhttps://kkartlab.in/profile/LiviuIliescu
<p>Dear Marcel</p>
<p>Thanks for message.<br></br> Picasso started from the premise that everything in the paintings hould be reduced to the plan. (cubism)<br></br> He was a genius.<br></br> I searched in Bioptical Art a lifetime, being expert in designing mathematical optics.<br></br> I learned to paint for applying my research.<br></br> I expect artists to teach the new technique, which will become<br></br> famous.<br></br> Some animals from which we came had eyes in the side as is pigeon.…<br></br></p>
<p>Dear Marcel</p>
<p>Thanks for message.<br/> Picasso started from the premise that everything in the paintings hould be reduced to the plan. (cubism)<br/> He was a genius.<br/> I searched in Bioptical Art a lifetime, being expert in designing mathematical optics.<br/> I learned to paint for applying my research.<br/> I expect artists to teach the new technique, which will become<br/> famous.<br/> Some animals from which we came had eyes in the side as is pigeon.<br/> Bioptical technique involves regaining the habit of seeing two different images in succession.</p> http://www.facebook.com/TheMe…tag:kkartlab.in,2012-03-26:2816864:Comment:840822012-03-26T02:33:10.316ZDavid A. Engstrømhttps://kkartlab.in/profile/DavidAEngstroem
<p><a href="http://www.facebook.com/TheMetastabilianMovement" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/TheMetastabilianMovement</a> Come visit! ~,)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.facebook.com/TheMetastabilianMovement" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/TheMetastabilianMovement</a> Come visit! ~,)</p> Hi Marcel,
Dear Marcel,
Yes…tag:kkartlab.in,2012-03-26:2816864:Comment:838802012-03-26T02:31:24.854ZDavid A. Engstrømhttps://kkartlab.in/profile/DavidAEngstroem
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<p>Yes, this conundrum and all conundrums of this kind fall within the realm of the complementary nature. Th We would say that art and science are "complementary aspects" of a complementary dynamic of creativity that is the human brain~mind. That is to say, creativity is both emotive and introspective. Science is the business of acquistion…</p>
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<p>Yes, this conundrum and all conundrums of this kind fall within the realm of the complementary nature. Th We would say that art and science are "complementary aspects" of a complementary dynamic of creativity that is the human brain~mind. That is to say, creativity is both emotive and introspective. Science is the business of acquistion of knowledge, no more, no less. There is a lot of science implicit in the act of painting or sculpture, for example. In order to employ a medium the medium must exist. Each medium carries with it a development that is no less scientific than many scientific studies. I humbly suggest that it is unlikely that the agenda here, or any reconciliation of art and science, is to "reduce" art to science, nor would I suggest that it is auspicious to "reduce" or belittle the role of science in our lives, the device you are using to read this is a very decent case in point: much science and art have been employed to result in your computer... best from David ~;)</p>
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<div class="mbl"><div class="mhl">The "Metastabilian Movement" is a new art movement started by David A. Engstrøm. Its aims and aesthetic are based on 'the squiggle sense' of the complementary nature, which is grounded in the science of coordination dynamics.</div>
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<div id="id_4f6fd22e1c6833a55221190" class="text_exposed_root text_exposed">My name is David A. Engstrøm. I am multiartist, writer and neuroscientist. I am a co-author (along with J. A. Scott Kelso) of a popular science book called 'The Complementary Nature', which provides a novel scientific~philosophical paradigm based in dynamical metastable complementarity, that can be applied to any field of human endeavor. <br/><br/>This being the case, I have spent many years applying th<span class="text_exposed_show">is paradigm to my artistic pursuits, and am now convinced that applied to the arts, it actually constitutes the foundational step of a new, exciting and powerful artistic movement, which I have named, "The Metastabilian Movement". <br/><br/>This facebook page is dedicated to "The Metastabilian Movement" in the arts. It will share my own artworks and hopefully works from others who join the movement. It will develop and present the main ideas and concepts of the movement leading to an official manifesto.<br/><br/>As the "Metastabilian Movement" takes hold, the page will provide details of events, openings and galleries that present artworks of its followers.</span></div>
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</div> Suddenly, I ask myself what a…tag:kkartlab.in,2012-03-26:2816864:Comment:840812012-03-26T02:06:16.175ZMarcel Charesthttps://kkartlab.in/profile/MarcelCharest
<p>Suddenly, I ask myself what art would become if to be an artist you must be a scientific. No art without science? What would become of the art practiced by children? On one hand, Picasso replied to a journalist that a child could do the same painting as the painting of Picasso; Picasso was moved by the question and said: "Thank you very much, I have been trying to paint like a child for more than thirty years!" On another hand, (how many hands do we have...), scientists, sometimes propose…</p>
<p>Suddenly, I ask myself what art would become if to be an artist you must be a scientific. No art without science? What would become of the art practiced by children? On one hand, Picasso replied to a journalist that a child could do the same painting as the painting of Picasso; Picasso was moved by the question and said: "Thank you very much, I have been trying to paint like a child for more than thirty years!" On another hand, (how many hands do we have...), scientists, sometimes propose schoolchildren with grown-up scientific problems in order to have a new perspective; sometimes, just to get out of the problem to see more clearly a solution.</p>
<p>Marcel Charest</p> A reply sent to me by Mr. Ili…tag:kkartlab.in,2012-03-26:2816864:Comment:839902012-03-26T01:42:44.507ZDr. Krishna Kumari Challahttps://kkartlab.in/profile/DrKrishnaKumariChalla
<p>A reply sent to me by Mr. Iliescu: <br></br> RE: My major interest lies in the transmit accumulation in arts and science, in order not to lose.</p>
<p>From Liviu Iliescu to You<br></br> Sent 17 hours ago</p>
<p><br></br> Forward<br></br>I join those who say that this thematic may be discussed from several points of view.<br></br> I present some issues that emerged from my research in the fine art.<br></br> I have established rules of composition, some mathematical relationships derived from<br></br> I realized…</p>
<p>A reply sent to me by Mr. Iliescu: <br/> RE: My major interest lies in the transmit accumulation in arts and science, in order not to lose.</p>
<p>From Liviu Iliescu to You<br/> Sent 17 hours ago</p>
<p><br/> Forward<br/>I join those who say that this thematic may be discussed from several points of view.<br/> I present some issues that emerged from my research in the fine art.<br/> I have established rules of composition, some mathematical relationships derived from<br/> I realized compositions and as a result of recommendations we proposed that this kind</p>
<p>of art to be used in psychotherapy.<br/> Bioptical art I called my research, a field which I think in the experimental phase.</p>
<p>Even in testing phase, we might consider, as it confirms that as science generates art, which in turn<br/> can be used in science.</p>
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<p>12. Visual-sense-storming</p>
<p>5. Laboratory hall for visual therapy</p>
<p>Sketches, drawings, figures and portraits.</p>
<p>To see my position in the overall context of the theme for fine art, which is on Google, post:<br/> fine art colour fusion helmholtz ; fine art binocular rivalry</p>
<p>fine art binocular rivalry science ; fine art visual sense stereoscopy</p>
<p>fine art visual sense pictures</p>
<p>See position titles containing my work:</p>
<p>12.Visual-sense –storming ; The paired off visual signal Liviu Iliescu</p>
<p>The modalities that I propose may be valorised by arousing a wider interest, if the fine art artists, by using traditional techniques and their talent, will create complex compositions with bioptical stimuli. on one hand, Bioptical Art will bring developments in research of psychology, neurology and psychiatry, and, on the other hand, it will give possibilities to the field of aesthetics to supplement chapters such as: disinterested interest, art as sensorial experience, art dependent knowledge and others</p>
<p>I will return with explanations and simple examples of how it looks<br/> and are compositions of Bioptical Art</p>