Do you follow your heart or the market while creating art? - SCI-ART LAB2024-03-28T12:09:40Zhttps://kkartlab.in/forum/topics/do-you-follow-your-heart-or?commentId=2816864%3AComment%3A54787&feed=yes&xn_auth=noIt is not science at fault wh…tag:kkartlab.in,2010-09-21:2816864:Comment:549492010-09-21T05:10:00.366ZDr. Krishna Kumari Challahttps://kkartlab.in/profile/DrKrishnaKumariChalla
It is not science at fault when these things are done but people who are using it - or rather misusing it.<br />
Science doesn't encourage people to do such things. It is the human beings who are unable to control their human behaviour do such things. like I said earlier I don't know much about God to say anything about him or her. But I know some genetic factors as well as emotional distress contribute to mental illnesses. These effects can be nullified with drugs & training. Some millions of…
It is not science at fault when these things are done but people who are using it - or rather misusing it.<br />
Science doesn't encourage people to do such things. It is the human beings who are unable to control their human behaviour do such things. like I said earlier I don't know much about God to say anything about him or her. But I know some genetic factors as well as emotional distress contribute to mental illnesses. These effects can be nullified with drugs & training. Some millions of chemical reactions take place while a single fertilized egg is being transformed into an adult human being. Anything can go wrong anytime depending on the conditions in which these are occurring. It is a miracle when a fully healthy baby emerges out of the womb. Then while the growth of the baby's brain is taking place in the early stages of development if the circumstances are not right & if it subjected to emotional stress again the baby can develop mental problems. Even a fully grown adult can become mentally unstable if he is subjected to constant abuse or stress. Both genetic factors as well as surroundings should be right & healthy for a human being to become a normal healthy being. Usually all these things don't be in the right proportions. Some people will have a strong mind ( developed because of good support & training) because of which they can withstand the stress & turbulence better. Some who are unfortunate not to have a strong mind succumb to stress & become unstable. These things can again be corrected with medicines & therapy. That is where science helps. That is what science told us & that is what I believe in.<br />
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. <cite>gus lynott said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://artlab.ning.com/forum/topics/do-you-follow-your-heart-or?commentId=2816864%3AComment%3A54928&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2816864Comment54928"><div>medical science calls those that are easily distracted as mentally ill and especially if one sees visions or if you feel you get sound like contacts from another unscientific source outside this world..well i think theres more to it then the label of sickness..does the label imply the wages for a doctor and the nice knock on effect this has on the assumed patient..science and art demands a product or discovery to move on to the next exciteing discovery....but the people who are made into a product called "mentally ill" maybe not acknowledged properly...being part of gods creation and god is not completely cruel that he would create a mentally ill group of people to prop up a medical establishment..as an assumed mentally ill person gets distracted...maybe god is telling the scientific people that these distractions are relavent and if one was to use a word for them...i would call the mentally ill..."process people"...who venture further and see more discoveries but are not called discoveries by science but ridiculas bablings ..and does science realize these same people were burned as witches in the 1400's....we are getting better yes....we give these people straight jackets and tablets and keep them out of the way or they end up alcoholics or drug addicts towards suicide..impossible to acknowledge as science hasnt changed a bit just a bit more humane...when will all gods creation be acknowledged in science and art..to embrace the humble "process" of life instead of the "arrogant" product of life....if science and art thinks its enlightened...for me ....it is not..just a little bright shade of darkness...there are many gifts the assumed mentally ill have but society shuts them out and in our ignorance....shut interesting parts of god to and science and art<br/>
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<cite>Dr. Krishna Kumari Challa said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://artlab.ning.com/forum/topics/do-you-follow-your-heart-or?xg_source=activity&id=2816864%3ATopic%3A34462&page=3#2816864Comment54919"><div>Vivekananda - one of Indian Philosophers said: Real Education is the one that takes ones mind & thought towards the right direction. If it doesn't serve this purpose, people only become literates not educated. You need not go to schools, colleges & universities to get education. If you have the right set of mind, you can get it even at your home.<br/><br/><cite>gus lynott said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://artlab.ning.com/forum/topics/do-you-follow-your-heart-or?commentId=2816864%3AComment%3A54901&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2816864Comment54901"><div>usually metal doors are closed security doors which i use here symbolically as a person who is ignored or their ideas ignored regardless of experience..glass doors can be seen through and an idea can be shared once one looks through the glass...like a door that is open or ajar..more chances of shareing ideas....like love....i feel that our education was a lie...lots of enthusiasm but became tired and exhausted...too much closed metal doors as they got rid of students that couldnt withstand the lies..what a disgrace of an art college...to get a diploma in defeating truth...and everyone knows no one knows the truth as everyone lies...but you would think a college of higher learning would know better....how is man to progress and if he does then its very slowly..the students that got rejected would be actually mankinds only hope...you know shamefully we hardly got to see our head lecturer..with the likes of my character i feel he knew what i wanted...and other lecturers also left...love is no good without truth and vice versa<br/><br/><cite>Dr. Krishna Kumari Challa said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://artlab.ning.com/forum/topics/do-you-follow-your-heart-or?xg_source=activity&id=2816864%3ATopic%3A34462&page=3#2816864Comment54787"><div>It reflects the times we live in. I didn't understand your theory of doors. People need your glass doors too. However, they try to get love but refuse to give it back. It is a sort of selfishness. But if you don't give what you get, you will lose it. That is what is happening all around us.<br/><br/><cite>gus lynott said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://artlab.ning.com/forum/topics/do-you-follow-your-heart-or?xg_source=activity&id=2816864%3ATopic%3A34462&page=3#2816864Comment54764"><div>yes im glad for you that your trying for discoveries and happiest with your science...i notice in my country called ireland...we like to succeed in knowledge...but i notice Dr Krishna there is terrible inequality in our education..would one be happy in heaven if the rest of your family are in hell...god forbid..just an example....if i discovered factually that the universe was a bath tub and shocked the scientific community showing the exact layout of many gallaxies and could predict future movements further than anyone dreamed of but a friend of mine who would be a poet like me but lacked scientific discepline and would make a more brilliant discovery but our education forced him out...because our education has no patience for the imagination...how could i relish in my discovery if my friend is not acknowledged..the door of possibilities of art and religion is made of metal..but the door of possibilities of love is made of glass....yet humans choose the metal door..why is mankind so hard on itself..he's arrogant enough to think he doesnt need the help of a glass door :)</div>
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</blockquote> Vivekananda - one of Indian P…tag:kkartlab.in,2010-09-20:2816864:Comment:549192010-09-20T03:02:56.428ZDr. Krishna Kumari Challahttps://kkartlab.in/profile/DrKrishnaKumariChalla
Vivekananda - one of Indian Philosophers said: Real Education is the one that takes ones mind & thought towards the right direction. If it doesn't serve this purpose, people only become literates not educated. You need not go to schools, colleges & universities to get education. If you have the right set of mind, you can get it even at your home.<br />
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Vivekananda - one of Indian Philosophers said: Real Education is the one that takes ones mind & thought towards the right direction. If it doesn't serve this purpose, people only become literates not educated. You need not go to schools, colleges & universities to get education. If you have the right set of mind, you can get it even at your home.<br />
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<cite>gus lynott said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://artlab.ning.com/forum/topics/do-you-follow-your-heart-or?commentId=2816864%3AComment%3A54901&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2816864Comment54901"><div>usually metal doors are closed security doors which i use here symbolically as a person who is ignored or their ideas ignored regardless of experience..glass doors can be seen through and an idea can be shared once one looks through the glass...like a door that is open or ajar..more chances of shareing ideas....like love....i feel that our education was a lie...lots of enthusiasm but became tired and exhausted...too much closed metal doors as they got rid of students that couldnt withstand the lies..what a disgrace of an art college...to get a diploma in defeating truth...and everyone knows no one knows the truth as everyone lies...but you would think a college of higher learning would know better....how is man to progress and if he does then its very slowly..the students that got rejected would be actually mankinds only hope...you know shamefully we hardly got to see our head lecturer..with the likes of my character i feel he knew what i wanted...and other lecturers also left...love is no good without truth and vice versa<br/>
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<cite>Dr. Krishna Kumari Challa said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://artlab.ning.com/forum/topics/do-you-follow-your-heart-or?xg_source=activity&id=2816864%3ATopic%3A34462&page=3#2816864Comment54787"><div>It reflects the times we live in. I didn't understand your theory of doors. People need your glass doors too. However, they try to get love but refuse to give it back. It is a sort of selfishness. But if you don't give what you get, you will lose it. That is what is happening all around us.<br/><br/><cite>gus lynott said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://artlab.ning.com/forum/topics/do-you-follow-your-heart-or?xg_source=activity&id=2816864%3ATopic%3A34462&page=3#2816864Comment54764"><div>yes im glad for you that your trying for discoveries and happiest with your science...i notice in my country called ireland...we like to succeed in knowledge...but i notice Dr Krishna there is terrible inequality in our education..would one be happy in heaven if the rest of your family are in hell...god forbid..just an example....if i discovered factually that the universe was a bath tub and shocked the scientific community showing the exact layout of many gallaxies and could predict future movements further than anyone dreamed of but a friend of mine who would be a poet like me but lacked scientific discepline and would make a more brilliant discovery but our education forced him out...because our education has no patience for the imagination...how could i relish in my discovery if my friend is not acknowledged..the door of possibilities of art and religion is made of metal..but the door of possibilities of love is made of glass....yet humans choose the metal door..why is mankind so hard on itself..he's arrogant enough to think he doesnt need the help of a glass door :)</div>
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</blockquote> It reflects the times we live…tag:kkartlab.in,2010-09-17:2816864:Comment:547872010-09-17T23:19:12.939ZDr. Krishna Kumari Challahttps://kkartlab.in/profile/DrKrishnaKumariChalla
It reflects the times we live in. I didn't understand your theory of doors. People need your glass doors too. However, they try to get love but refuse to give it back. It is a sort of selfishness. But if you don't give what you get, you will lose it. That is what is happening all around us.<br />
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<cite>gus lynott said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://artlab.ning.com/forum/topics/do-you-follow-your-heart-or?xg_source=activity&id=2816864%3ATopic%3A34462&page=3#2816864Comment54764"><div>yes im…</div>
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It reflects the times we live in. I didn't understand your theory of doors. People need your glass doors too. However, they try to get love but refuse to give it back. It is a sort of selfishness. But if you don't give what you get, you will lose it. That is what is happening all around us.<br />
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<cite>gus lynott said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://artlab.ning.com/forum/topics/do-you-follow-your-heart-or?xg_source=activity&id=2816864%3ATopic%3A34462&page=3#2816864Comment54764"><div>yes im glad for you that your trying for discoveries and happiest with your science...i notice in my country called ireland...we like to succeed in knowledge...but i notice Dr Krishna there is terrible inequality in our education..would one be happy in heaven if the rest of your family are in hell...god forbid..just an example....if i discovered factually that the universe was a bath tub and shocked the scientific community showing the exact layout of many gallaxies and could predict future movements further than anyone dreamed of but a friend of mine who would be a poet like me but lacked scientific discepline and would make a more brilliant discovery but our education forced him out...because our education has no patience for the imagination...how could i relish in my discovery if my friend is not acknowledged..the door of possibilities of art and religion is made of metal..but the door of possibilities of love is made of glass....yet humans choose the metal door..why is mankind so hard on itself..he's arrogant enough to think he doesnt need the help of a glass door :)</div>
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Science is like a knife. It depends on the person who uses it whether it is used for a good purpose or a bad one.<br />
On the whole if it does good to majority of the people in this world we can say it is good. I painted a picture on this theme. "Choice is yours" is the title of my work. Please go to <a href="http://www.kkartfromscience.com" target="_blank">http://www.kkartfromscience.com</a> & read the description & see my work. And I don't know much about God to say something! So I keep…
Science is like a knife. It depends on the person who uses it whether it is used for a good purpose or a bad one.<br />
On the whole if it does good to majority of the people in this world we can say it is good. I painted a picture on this theme. "Choice is yours" is the title of my work. Please go to <a href="http://www.kkartfromscience.com" target="_blank">http://www.kkartfromscience.com</a> & read the description & see my work. And I don't know much about God to say something! So I keep myself away in commenting on such things. Science gives you a kick if you invent or discover new things that will benefit humanity. You feel you are Super-human in such a circumstance! Poetry & art gives you satisfaction. The feeling is less euphoric. I have experienced the feelings of achievements in several fields & believe me Science gives you the highest satisfaction & greatest feelings.<br />
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<cite>gus lynott said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://artlab.ning.com/forum/topics/do-you-follow-your-heart-or?xg_source=activity&id=2816864%3ATopic%3A34462&page=3#2816864Comment54425"><div>what i meant was the marriage of poetry and scientific fact..like the mind of einstein....but education only deals with facts and wont marry facts to fantasy...if one could see the universe as gods body and as god grows then a new universe is growing to..who is to prove im wrong and who is to prove human science is on the right path..to bring a story to science is to enliven the hearts of students and less chance of failure and stress when exam time..to fill ones wallet with a job :)<br/> <br/>
<cite>Dr. Krishna Kumari Challa said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://artlab.ning.com/forum/topics/do-you-follow-your-heart-or?id=2816864%3ATopic%3A34462&page=3#2816864Comment54309"><div>Basic education is going out of fashion now. People are stressing on job-oriented knowledge. Is the art of writing poems job - oriented? No, so nobody cares about it. You write poems because your hear t, soul & mind feels happy when you do that. People argue that only when your stomach is full your heart sings by seeing things around you & reacting to them & can write poems happily. And you need a job for filling your pocket & stomach. Poetry comes next. But I read a poem on hunger too - obviously the poet wrote it when he was hungry. So the argument doesn't have a firm ground. All poets know they write it because they want to do it as it makes them happy. Who cares about job or money? We don't need good education to write poems. Anybody who has a heart & mind that can interact with his surroundings can write poetry.<br/><br/><cite>gus lynott said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://artlab.ning.com/forum/topics/do-you-follow-your-heart-or?commentId=2816864%3AComment%3A54306&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2816864Comment54306"><div>most education is based on objective thinking...therefore money springs up all the time...has education lost its sense of poetry and the personal as it madly goes forth into what it thinks is great progress...its progress allright but has lost the many varied layers poetry has to offer and at school if you try to be subjective then one feels your holding up the show..did not god say when he was here and reports convinced that he was god and even the authorites were nervous of the man called jesus when he said he came for all nations and that means everyone...gosh everyone...what love and he said he was also composed of the truth..meaning that those of us assumed dull or boreing are also part of jesus..poets in schools give the authorites headaches because authorites gear students for money ideas ONLY if we are honest about this..sure to stand back and look at poets or jazz we could grin and ridicule them...but the wealth poets have is so staggering this message sadly would not be able to contain the number of credits as poetry is a process river while objective facts end in a finished product and this can arise in poor health of the producer limiting the flow which poetry can bring...i choose poetry not because its unpopular but in time like the rabbit and the snail in a race ...the snail wins because the rabbit fancies his distractions along the race..the distractions of money convenience and hoildays due to the never satisfied finished product thats pretends to be finished..as they go madly back to work to discover a new angle ....as this is a chance for more money but alas same old product sweating for a new angle for another bonas as the holidays are advanceing quicker due to the calander celibrations..however the other end of the stick the personal side either goes away sulking with no paid job or strikes gold with his poetry and discovers a process that is never ending and not too demanding as the money is slow to come in but looks promiseing...there is idea joy here and the other side full of stress has money joy..why does education ignore the poet and nurture his luck and favour the money facts..its dangerous not to support the poet..suicide...its not such a risk to leave someone without money..have we gone cowardly and become cruel in knowledge</div>
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</blockquote> Basic education is going out…tag:kkartlab.in,2010-09-15:2816864:Comment:543092010-09-15T03:36:57.600ZDr. Krishna Kumari Challahttps://kkartlab.in/profile/DrKrishnaKumariChalla
Basic education is going out of fashion now. People are stressing on job-oriented knowledge. Is the art of writing poems job - oriented? No, so nobody cares about it. You write poems because your hear t, soul & mind feel happy when you do that. People argue that only when your stomach is full your heart sings by seeing things around you & reacting to them & can write poems happily. And you need a job for filling your pocket & stomach. Poetry comes next. But I read a poem on…
Basic education is going out of fashion now. People are stressing on job-oriented knowledge. Is the art of writing poems job - oriented? No, so nobody cares about it. You write poems because your hear t, soul & mind feel happy when you do that. People argue that only when your stomach is full your heart sings by seeing things around you & reacting to them & can write poems happily. And you need a job for filling your pocket & stomach. Poetry comes next. But I read a poem on hunger too - obviously the poet wrote it when he was hungry. So the argument doesn't have a firm ground. All poets know they write it because they want to do it as it makes them happy. Who cares about job or money? We don't need good education to write poems. Anybody who has a heart & mind that can interact with his surroundings can write poetry.<br />
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<cite>gus lynott said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://artlab.ning.com/forum/topics/do-you-follow-your-heart-or?commentId=2816864%3AComment%3A54306&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2816864Comment54306"><div>most education is based on objective thinking...therefore money springs up all the time...has education lost its sense of poetry and the personal as it madly goes forth into what it thinks is great progress...its progress allright but has lost the many varied layers poetry has to offer and at school if you try to be subjective then one feels your holding up the show..did not god say when he was here and reports convinced that he was god and even the authorites were nervous of the man called jesus when he said he came for all nations and that means everyone...gosh everyone...what love and he said he was also composed of the truth..meaning that those of us assumed dull or boreing are also part of jesus..poets in schools give the authorites headaches because authorites gear students for money ideas ONLY if we are honest about this..sure to stand back and look at poets or jazz we could grin and ridicule them...but the wealth poets have is so staggering this message sadly would not be able to contain the number of credits as poetry is a process river while objective facts end in a finished product and this can arise in poor health of the producer limiting the flow which poetry can bring...i choose poetry not because its unpopular but in time like the rabbit and the snail in a race ...the snail wins because the rabbit fancies his distractions along the race..the distractions of money convenience and hoildays due to the never satisfied finished product thats pretends to be finished..as they go madly back to work to discover a new angle ....as this is a chance for more money but alas same old product sweating for a new angle for another bonas as the holidays are advanceing quicker due to the calander celibrations..however the other end of the stick the personal side either goes away sulking with no paid job or strikes gold with his poetry and discovers a process that is never ending and not too demanding as the money is slow to come in but looks promiseing...there is idea joy here and the other side full of stress has money joy..why does education ignore the poet and nurture his luck and favour the money facts..its dangerous not to support the poet..suicide...its not such a risk to leave someone without money..have we gone cowardly and become cruel in knowledge</div>
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I do write poems on themes related to my art work. I am a writer & a designer too. I feel all these creative things are linked & if you are good at one you will not have any problem in doing other things. When your trinity speaks ( Please see my other discussion on scientific explanation of creativity), you will become a natural genius. No University degrees can match your talent then. There is a group for poets & You can post your poems related to your art there. You can see some…
I do write poems on themes related to my art work. I am a writer & a designer too. I feel all these creative things are linked & if you are good at one you will not have any problem in doing other things. When your trinity speaks ( Please see my other discussion on scientific explanation of creativity), you will become a natural genius. No University degrees can match your talent then. There is a group for poets & You can post your poems related to your art there. You can see some of my poems posted in the group. I don't even get time to add all my poems. Whenever I find time, I post one or two.<br />
Your poems are very sweet, Ayla. If I am rich, I don't mind sp…tag:kkartlab.in,2010-06-27:2816864:Comment:459532010-06-27T03:27:26.211ZZhenlianhttps://kkartlab.in/profile/Zhenlian
If I am rich, I don't mind spending money to get famous, after all the art market is like any other markets, we must pay to get known, but I am a retired woman with just enough money to keep me alive, but I am very contented to be able to afford to have painting as my hobby, this hobby helps me to pass my time as well as to enrich my life.<br />
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If I am rich, I don't mind spending money to get famous, after all the art market is like any other markets, we must pay to get known, but I am a retired woman with just enough money to keep me alive, but I am very contented to be able to afford to have painting as my hobby, this hobby helps me to pass my time as well as to enrich my life.<br />
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<cite>Dr. Krishna Kumari Challa said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://artlab.ning.com/forum/topics/do-you-follow-your-heart-or?id=2816864%3ATopic%3A34462&page=3#2816864Comment45923"><div>The Chinese art scene you described can be seen in India too. Like you said it is the same everywhere. You pay money - you become a great & happening artist. The more great you become, the more greedy you become too.<br/>You have a choice: Spend money & become great & greedy to get several times more money than you spent or refuse to become a part of this game & remain unknown in your life time but enjoy creating art that satisfies your soul!<br/><br/><br/><cite>Zhenlian said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://artlab.ning.com/forum/topics/do-you-follow-your-heart-or?page=3&commentId=2816864%3AComment%3A45910&x=1#2816864Comment45910"><div>I would rather say that the 'art world' is as glamourous as it is ridiculous, there is not only room for bad talents , there are rooms for tanks of rubbish. In the Chinese art market, you can buy the title of a 'Most promising art talent' just by paying 2700 renminbi, in fact I have considered paying for this title, but so far I haven't made up my mind, why do I consider buying this title? Because I think that this might help me selling my paintings, I do not deny that if I can sell my paintings I should be very happy. But personally I have not much respect for a title bought with money and I am not sure if that title can help me to sell my paintings. That is the reason why until now I haven't paid for that title yet. If I am sure that a title can help to boost my art sells, I will buy it. In the Chinese art world a small circle of authorities build a great Catheral and raised thier favorites, or people with some kind of social support , to the pedestals of Great Artists, and wealthy classes would be led to worhip and pay homage to them. We are all taught and made to believe that paintings which can fetch the hightest prices in the auction markets are unquestionally Great arts. Such an illusion in fact is true for the art world everywhere, not only China. When an artist becomes famous, he is the manipulater of the art scene. He no longer needs to pay any efforts to build up his paintings, because anything produced by him will be Great Art, so Picasso at the end of his life had become a manipulater, whatever he painted would be regarded as masterpieces, so why should he paint with his soul and mind? The spectators have become his playthings, he is the dictator, and all spectators are his followers, this is the game of the slave becoming the master and the master becoming the slave, this is the game of the Art Commerce. It is a glamourous game and it is very ridiculous ,it is as crooked and quacky as any commerce, yet the world love to play it.<br/>I have plenty of reasons not to take 'Being an artist' too seriously, what is the difference between an artist and a plumber? Does being an artist put you on a higher pedestal than a plumber? I don't like this game of the art world yet I like my paintings, I paint because I enjoy doing my paintings and I do not mind how much you pay for my paintings, as long as you buy what you like, then it is great art, not any amount of money can define my art.<br/><br/><cite>Stephen Hanger said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://artlab.ning.com/forum/topics/do-you-follow-your-heart-or#2816864Comment35254"><div>The entire topic is somewhat immature This sound like the sort of discussion one hears over and over by first year art students . The best thing about being an Artist is that it is the only Profession where you can not lose. If you never sell your work ,then its because you are too far out there to be understood, your too deep , ahead of your time. your just so intuitive and unwilling to compromise your exceptional talent and ability because your a misunderstood Genius. After all your work comes from your heart and soul. Why your another Van-Goah On the other hand if you make a lot of Money, then you are again a Successful Natural Genius ,as you always knew you were, Because your work comes from your heart and soul and your. Your another Picasso .<br/>Van-Goah's life unknowingly to him created a myth about; " The struggling, misunderstood Genus Artist" in that , suffering ,and self sacrifice some how Legitimizes ones Art. Nothing could be father form the truth. The fact is many Artist were and are very very financially successful form their Art work.<br/>The fact of life is ,just because someone crap on canvas in an attempt to reveal their deepest emotions does not make them an Artist. Or maybe it does, in a kind of ," Oh look what my three year old can do" way.<br/>Good Art , is hard work and Great Art is God Damn Hard work..<br/>Like any of the Arts, there is no room for bad Talent. One can be a so-so Dr. or Plumber and still make a living. Not so the Art World. The Art World will Not Tolerate so so Talent. There is lots of room on Top. Getting there, well that is the problem.<br/>Talent...most everyone has some degree of Talent , anyone can draw or sing or dance but if this talent is never developed and guided and coaxed to its fullest potential , then it may remain just , common trite talent.<br/>Lastly; I have studied and painted all my life. I know that am a my degree of talent is somewhat limited an common. I have learned in the end, Art is just art. The Art World builds Great Cathedrals to our Saint Cezanne's and Pope Pizarro's and fills them with their Great works so we may go worship and pay Homage . I do not think that my Creator will be impressed with all my fine paintings when I face him. No , not at all. The Greatest Good anyone can do with their life is to help their fellow Human Beings, all else is meaningless vanity.<br/>Art is just that ;Art..if you enjoy making it, if it makes you or others happy then do it How about painting solely for the Sheer Fun of it. Art has nothing to do with who you are ..its just Art.<br/>Salam</div>
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</blockquote> The Chinese art scene you des…tag:kkartlab.in,2010-06-25:2816864:Comment:459232010-06-25T23:38:34.358ZDr. Krishna Kumari Challahttps://kkartlab.in/profile/DrKrishnaKumariChalla
The Chinese art scene you described can be seen in India too. Like you said it is the same everywhere. You pay money - you become a great & happening artist. The more great you become, the more greedy you become too.<br />
You have a choice: Spend money & become great & greedy to get several times more money than you spent or refuse to become a part of this game & remain unknown in your life time but enjoy creating art that satisfies your soul!<br />
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<cite>Zhenlian said:…</cite>
The Chinese art scene you described can be seen in India too. Like you said it is the same everywhere. You pay money - you become a great & happening artist. The more great you become, the more greedy you become too.<br />
You have a choice: Spend money & become great & greedy to get several times more money than you spent or refuse to become a part of this game & remain unknown in your life time but enjoy creating art that satisfies your soul!<br />
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<cite>Zhenlian said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://artlab.ning.com/forum/topics/do-you-follow-your-heart-or?page=3&commentId=2816864%3AComment%3A45910&x=1#2816864Comment45910"><div>I would rather say that the 'art world' is as glamourous as it is ridiculous, there is not only room for bad talents , there are rooms for tanks of rubbish. In the Chinese art market, you can buy the title of a 'Most promising art talent' just by paying 2700 renminbi, in fact I have considered paying for this title, but so far I haven't made up my mind, why do I consider buying this title? Because I think that this might help me selling my paintings, I do not deny that if I can sell my paintings I should be very happy. But personally I have not much respect for a title bought with money and I am not sure if that title can help me to sell my paintings. That is the reason why until now I haven't paid for that title yet. If I am sure that a title can help to boost my art sells, I will buy it. In the Chinese art world a small circle of authorities build a great Catheral and raised thier favorites, or people with some kind of social support , to the pedestals of Great Artists, and wealthy classes would be led to worhip and pay homage to them. We are all taught and made to believe that paintings which can fetch the hightest prices in the auction markets are unquestionally Great arts. Such an illusion in fact is true for the art world everywhere, not only China. When an artist becomes famous, he is the manipulater of the art scene. He no longer needs to pay any efforts to build up his paintings, because anything produced by him will be Great Art, so Picasso at the end of his life had become a manipulater, whatever he painted would be regarded as masterpieces, so why should he paint with his soul and mind? The spectators have become his playthings, he is the dictator, and all spectators are his followers, this is the game of the slave becoming the master and the master becoming the slave, this is the game of the Art Commerce. It is a glamourous game and it is very ridiculous ,it is as crooked and quacky as any commerce, yet the world love to play it.<br/> I have plenty of reasons not to take 'Being an artist' too seriously, what is the difference between an artist and a plumber? Does being an artist put you on a higher pedestal than a plumber? I don't like this game of the art world yet I like my paintings, I paint because I enjoy doing my paintings and I do not mind how much you pay for my paintings, as long as you buy what you like, then it is great art, not any amount of money can define my art.<br/>
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<cite>Stephen Hanger said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://artlab.ning.com/forum/topics/do-you-follow-your-heart-or#2816864Comment35254"><div>The entire topic is somewhat immature This sound like the sort of discussion one hears over and over by first year art students . The best thing about being an Artist is that it is the only Profession where you can not lose. If you never sell your work ,then its because you are too far out there to be understood, your too deep , ahead of your time. your just so intuitive and unwilling to compromise your exceptional talent and ability because your a misunderstood Genius. After all your work comes from your heart and soul. Why your another Van-Goah On the other hand if you make a lot of Money, then you are again a Successful Natural Genius ,as you always knew you were, Because your work comes from your heart and soul and your. Your another Picasso .<br/>Van-Goah's life unknowingly to him created a myth about; " The struggling, misunderstood Genus Artist" in that , suffering ,and self sacrifice some how Legitimizes ones Art. Nothing could be father form the truth. The fact is many Artist were and are very very financially successful form their Art work.<br/>The fact of life is ,just because someone crap on canvas in an attempt to reveal their deepest emotions does not make them an Artist. Or maybe it does, in a kind of ," Oh look what my three year old can do" way.<br/>Good Art , is hard work and Great Art is God Damn Hard work..<br/>Like any of the Arts, there is no room for bad Talent. One can be a so-so Dr. or Plumber and still make a living. Not so the Art World. The Art World will Not Tolerate so so Talent. There is lots of room on Top. Getting there, well that is the problem.<br/>Talent...most everyone has some degree of Talent , anyone can draw or sing or dance but if this talent is never developed and guided and coaxed to its fullest potential , then it may remain just , common trite talent.<br/>Lastly; I have studied and painted all my life. I know that am a my degree of talent is somewhat limited an common. I have learned in the end, Art is just art. The Art World builds Great Cathedrals to our Saint Cezanne's and Pope Pizarro's and fills them with their Great works so we may go worship and pay Homage . I do not think that my Creator will be impressed with all my fine paintings when I face him. No , not at all. The Greatest Good anyone can do with their life is to help their fellow Human Beings, all else is meaningless vanity.<br/>Art is just that ;Art..if you enjoy making it, if it makes you or others happy then do it How about painting solely for the Sheer Fun of it. Art has nothing to do with who you are ..its just Art.<br/>Salam</div>
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</blockquote> I would rather say that the '…tag:kkartlab.in,2010-06-25:2816864:Comment:459102010-06-25T03:15:33.981ZZhenlianhttps://kkartlab.in/profile/Zhenlian
I would rather say that the 'art world' is as glamourous as it is ridiculous, there is not only room for bad talents , there are rooms for tanks of rubbish. In the Chinese art market, you can buy the title of a 'Most promising art talent' just by paying 2700 renminbi, in fact I have considered paying for this title, but so far I haven't made up my mind, why do I consider buying this title? Because I think that this might help me selling my paintings, I do not deny that if I can sell my…
I would rather say that the 'art world' is as glamourous as it is ridiculous, there is not only room for bad talents , there are rooms for tanks of rubbish. In the Chinese art market, you can buy the title of a 'Most promising art talent' just by paying 2700 renminbi, in fact I have considered paying for this title, but so far I haven't made up my mind, why do I consider buying this title? Because I think that this might help me selling my paintings, I do not deny that if I can sell my paintings I should be very happy. But personally I have not much respect for a title bought with money and I am not sure if that title can help me to sell my paintings. That is the reason why until now I haven't paid for that title yet. If I am sure that a title can help to boost my art sells, I will buy it. In the Chinese art world a small circle of authorities build a great Catheral and raised thier favorites, or people with some kind of social support , to the pedestals of Great Artists, and wealthy classes would be led to worhip and pay homage to them. We are all taught and made to believe that paintings which can fetch the hightest prices in the auction markets are unquestionally Great arts. Such an illusion in fact is true for the art world everywhere, not only China. When an artist becomes famous, he is the manipulater of the art scene. He no longer needs to pay any efforts to build up his paintings, because anything produced by him will be Great Art, so Picasso at the end of his life had become a manipulater, whatever he painted would be regarded as masterpieces, so why should he paint with his soul and mind? The spectators have become his playthings, he is the dictator, and all spectators are his followers, this is the game of the slave becoming the master and the master becoming the slave, this is the game of the Art Commerce. It is a glamourous game and it is very ridiculous ,it is as crooked and quacky as any commerce, yet the world love to play it.<br />
I have plenty of reasons not to take 'Being an artist' too seriously, what is the difference between an artist and a plumber? Does being an artist put you on a higher pedestal than a plumber? I don't like this game of the art world yet I like my paintings, I paint because I enjoy doing my paintings and I do not mind how much you pay for my paintings, as long as you buy what you like, then it is great art, not any amount of money can define my art.<br />
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<cite>Stephen Hanger said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://artlab.ning.com/forum/topics/do-you-follow-your-heart-or#2816864Comment35254"><div>The entire topic is somewhat immature This sound like the sort of discussion one hears over and over by first year art students . The best thing about being an Artist is that it is the only Profession where you can not lose. If you never sell your work ,then its because you are too far out there to be understood, your too deep , ahead of your time. your just so intuitive and unwilling to compromise your exceptional talent and ability because your a misunderstood Genius. After all your work comes from your heart and soul. Why your another Van-Goah On the other hand if you make a lot of Money, then you are again a Successful Natural Genius ,as you always knew you were, Because your work comes from your heart and soul and your. Your another Picasso .<br/>Van-Goah's life unknowingly to him created a myth about; " The struggling, misunderstood Genus Artist" in that , suffering ,and self sacrifice some how Legitimizes ones Art. Nothing could be father form the truth. The fact is many Artist were and are very very financially successful form their Art work.<br/>The fact of life is ,just because someone crap on canvas in an attempt to reveal their deepest emotions does not make them an Artist. Or maybe it does, in a kind of ," Oh look what my three year old can do" way.<br/>Good Art , is hard work and Great Art is God Damn Hard work..<br/>Like any of the Arts, there is no room for bad Talent. One can be a so-so Dr. or Plumber and still make a living. Not so the Art World. The Art World will Not Tolerate so so Talent. There is lots of room on Top. Getting there, well that is the problem.<br/>Talent...most everyone has some degree of Talent , anyone can draw or sing or dance but if this talent is never developed and guided and coaxed to its fullest potential , then it may remain just , common trite talent.<br/>Lastly; I have studied and painted all my life. I know that am a my degree of talent is somewhat limited an common. I have learned in the end, Art is just art. The Art World builds Great Cathedrals to our Saint Cezanne's and Pope Pizarro's and fills them with their Great works so we may go worship and pay Homage . I do not think that my Creator will be impressed with all my fine paintings when I face him. No , not at all. The Greatest Good anyone can do with their life is to help their fellow Human Beings, all else is meaningless vanity.<br/>Art is just that ;Art..if you enjoy making it, if it makes you or others happy then do it How about painting solely for the Sheer Fun of it. Art has nothing to do with who you are ..its just Art.<br/>Salam</div>
</blockquote> Reply by Ayla Mahler on Janua…tag:kkartlab.in,2010-06-18:2816864:Comment:453982010-06-18T08:29:10.294ZDr. Krishna Kumari Challahttps://kkartlab.in/profile/DrKrishnaKumariChalla
Reply by Ayla Mahler on January 18, 2010 at 1:31pm<br />
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Dear Krishna,<br />
I follow my heart, art without feeling is just a customer product, right?
Reply by Ayla Mahler on January 18, 2010 at 1:31pm<br />
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Dear Krishna,<br />
I follow my heart, art without feeling is just a customer product, right?