Seeking Information for Article on Scientific Measurement of Aesthetics - SCI-ART LAB2024-03-28T23:44:27Zhttps://kkartlab.in/forum/topics/seeking-information-for-article-on-scientific-measurement-of?commentId=2816864%3AComment%3A92119&feed=yes&xn_auth=noK-soul
Sounds interesting, h…tag:kkartlab.in,2012-09-24:2816864:Comment:921192012-09-24T22:45:21.550Zmark.e.gouldhttps://kkartlab.in/profile/markegould
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<p>Sounds interesting, however I don't speak either German 0r French, so I would have to try and find an English translation. I will look through one of the libraries!</p>
<p><br/>Best regards,</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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<p>Sounds interesting, however I don't speak either German 0r French, so I would have to try and find an English translation. I will look through one of the libraries!</p>
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<p>Mark</p> Hi Mark !
If you read german…tag:kkartlab.in,2012-09-24:2816864:Comment:921152012-09-24T10:21:47.217ZK-soulhttps://kkartlab.in/profile/Ksoul
<p>Hi Mark !</p>
<p>If you read german or french you can find answers to your reflexion in f.ex. the book of Thomas Göbel "Die Quellen der Kunst, lebendige Sinne und Phantasie, als Schlüssel zur Architektur" or in french: "Vie sensorielle et imagination, Source de l'Art - Les 12 sens de l'homme". I don't know if this book was translated in english.</p>
<p>Best.</p>
<p>K-soul</p>
<p>Hi Mark !</p>
<p>If you read german or french you can find answers to your reflexion in f.ex. the book of Thomas Göbel "Die Quellen der Kunst, lebendige Sinne und Phantasie, als Schlüssel zur Architektur" or in french: "Vie sensorielle et imagination, Source de l'Art - Les 12 sens de l'homme". I don't know if this book was translated in english.</p>
<p>Best.</p>
<p>K-soul</p> I came across an interesting…tag:kkartlab.in,2012-09-21:2816864:Comment:920782012-09-21T08:35:33.763ZDr. Krishna Kumari Challahttps://kkartlab.in/profile/DrKrishnaKumariChalla
<p>I came across an interesting article that says science is more beautiful than art! You can read it here: ( To be frank, I fully agree with the author! ) : <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2012/sep/19/science-more-beautiful-than-art?newsfeed=true" target="_blank">http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2012/sep/19/science-more-beautiful-than-art?newsfeed=true</a></p>
<p>I came across an interesting article that says science is more beautiful than art! You can read it here: ( To be frank, I fully agree with the author! ) : <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2012/sep/19/science-more-beautiful-than-art?newsfeed=true" target="_blank">http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2012/sep/19/science-more-beautiful-than-art?newsfeed=true</a></p> Krishna, thanks. I just wasn'…tag:kkartlab.in,2012-09-18:2816864:Comment:915752012-09-18T13:12:36.666Zmark.e.gouldhttps://kkartlab.in/profile/markegould
<p>Krishna, thanks. I just wasn't sure when you said the the blog post may not have been published. It will be a while before I've finished writing. I'm just now getting to the videos and the research group, a wealth of information I'm sure. Yes, a broader perspective into aesthetics from what I've been reading would be a welcome change of pace.</p>
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<p>Krishna, thanks. I just wasn't sure when you said the the blog post may not have been published. It will be a while before I've finished writing. I'm just now getting to the videos and the research group, a wealth of information I'm sure. Yes, a broader perspective into aesthetics from what I've been reading would be a welcome change of pace.</p>
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<p></p> Mark, you an call me Krishna.…tag:kkartlab.in,2012-09-18:2816864:Comment:915742012-09-18T01:44:00.986ZDr. Krishna Kumari Challahttps://kkartlab.in/profile/DrKrishnaKumariChalla
<p>Mark, you an call me Krishna. You can quote my blog. People these days are giving references to online blogs too. Time permitted, I will try to fine tune my blog. Yes, I would like to read your articles. Different people will have different ways of thinking and taking all these thoughts into consideration would give you a full view of anything. Have you watched Dr. Ramachandran's videos? And the articles in the group research?</p>
<p>Mark, you an call me Krishna. You can quote my blog. People these days are giving references to online blogs too. Time permitted, I will try to fine tune my blog. Yes, I would like to read your articles. Different people will have different ways of thinking and taking all these thoughts into consideration would give you a full view of anything. Have you watched Dr. Ramachandran's videos? And the articles in the group research?</p> Hello, Is it correct to addre…tag:kkartlab.in,2012-09-17:2816864:Comment:915702012-09-17T17:08:42.155Zmark.e.gouldhttps://kkartlab.in/profile/markegould
<p>Hello, Is it correct to address you as Dr. Challa?</p>
<p>I must say I am am so pleased to read your very multi-disciplinary thoughts on the subject and also must reveal my bias to what I think is a very casual entry into a scientific "measurement" of aesthetics. I did not think it was for me to admit as such at first, and, not having read the full study; but I must agree on the surface that at least to an objective writer such as myself strictly the methodology alone of tracking heart rate,…</p>
<p>Hello, Is it correct to address you as Dr. Challa?</p>
<p>I must say I am am so pleased to read your very multi-disciplinary thoughts on the subject and also must reveal my bias to what I think is a very casual entry into a scientific "measurement" of aesthetics. I did not think it was for me to admit as such at first, and, not having read the full study; but I must agree on the surface that at least to an objective writer such as myself strictly the methodology alone of tracking heart rate, skin conductance, "emotional variance," spatial and temporal resolution using data gloves, etc. alone, could not, or would not fully define a fully scientific definition of aesthetics as you so brilliantly point out.</p>
<p>Being new to the field, I have spent the last couple of years reading Kant, Greenburg, Danto and others. All about the "End of Art," the "death of beauty" or at least a complete questioning of the concept of beauty as you point out. Quite a circus as you well say. While it is an interesting period to be examining all of the philosophical, critical and scientific concepts at play, I doubt beauty or art is dead and I'm glad to hear the experts are at work trying to get things right! I found your blog post to be fascinating and would love to know when it is published so I may cite it. I don't know if this discussion is public but I think some of what you say may at first alienate some artists, but perhaps at first that is what is necessary to get their attention. I will be writing frequently on these subjects and would certainly understand if you are busy but would be very happy if you or someone else in your capacity would read over what I'm thinking before I publish. I really am excited about the concept of applied aesthetics!</p>
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<p></p> Mark, I am writing a blog on…tag:kkartlab.in,2012-09-17:2816864:Comment:914732012-09-17T01:58:16.948ZDr. Krishna Kumari Challahttps://kkartlab.in/profile/DrKrishnaKumariChalla
<p>Mark, I am writing a blog on this very theme. It is incomplete and very rough as I am still trying to gather information on the subject. You can read it here: <a href="http://kkartlab.in/profiles/blogs/how-science-is-associated-with-aesthetics-especially-in-relation-" target="_blank">http://kkartlab.in/profiles/blogs/how-science-is-associated-with-ae...</a> Please go through the comments too. I am not finding time to fine tune this blog.</p>
<p>Although scientists are trying to give a…</p>
<p>Mark, I am writing a blog on this very theme. It is incomplete and very rough as I am still trying to gather information on the subject. You can read it here: <a href="http://kkartlab.in/profiles/blogs/how-science-is-associated-with-aesthetics-especially-in-relation-" target="_blank">http://kkartlab.in/profiles/blogs/how-science-is-associated-with-ae...</a> Please go through the comments too. I am not finding time to fine tune this blog.</p>
<p>Although scientists are trying to give a formula for good aesthetics, I am not very convinced. There is still a lot of work to do to arrive at a conclusion. One person's beauty is another one's ugliness. Things like cultural conditioning of minds play a lot of role in having aesthetic experiences and therefore it is difficult to have universal scientific measurements. If you try the experiment in Asian conditions with the same art works you get different set of results. For example, Mona Lisa is considered as one of the beautiful art works in the West but I have heard people here questioning this 'concept of beauty'. They say other things like artist's name, fame, cultural conditioning of minds, people's definition of beauty have an effect on aesthetic measurements. Without taking all these things into consideration, your work won't be accurate. That is what I am worried about. People are not taking several things into account that influence the results while arriving at conclusions. As a person from the field of science, I am not convinced by these studies.</p>
<p>As a person belonging to several fields, I try my best not to mix up things, to keep my aesthetic observations far away from my analysis based on reasoning and critical thinking, to draw lines in my mind between various factors influencing my decisions and conclusions, to write in different ways to make different people understand science. And it is quite a circus - all the while subjecting my mind to this unlimited torture but in the end all this is worth trying to get things right. It is important for people in science to do things in the right way so that they don't confuse the laymen with contradicting results like it is happening in recent times.</p>
<p>These lectures by Dr. Ramachandran might help you in understanding my words:</p>
<p><a href="http://kkartlab.in/video/aesthetic-universals-and-the-neurology-of-hindu-art-vilayanur-s" target="_blank">http://kkartlab.in/video/aesthetic-universals-and-the-neurology-of-...</a></p>
<p><a href="http://kkartlab.in/video/40-40-vision-lecture-neurology-and-the-passion-for-art" target="_blank">http://kkartlab.in/video/40-40-vision-lecture-neurology-and-the-pas...</a></p>
<p>There are articles in the group " Research" here on Art Lab which deal with the same subject and might help you.</p>