Artist on artist insults - read the quotes of artists on other artists and decide for yourself how much of the criticism  is true ----

These days artists are very critical about the art world. Read some of these Here:

https://apps.facebook.com/theguardian/artanddesign/2011/dec/02/char...

http://www.linkedin.com/groupItem?view=&srchtype=discussedNews&...

I find the art world misleading people and telling us what we should should not like. And for some unknown reason people listen to these critics and actually buy the items. More the fool them in my mind but as it has been given the so called art nod it will hold if not double it's value in no time. I recently looked at some visually stunning art from a new artist and was amazed to see his work shunned by a critic as depressing and "not controversial". Should I now go out and use animals entrals for art.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/life-and-physics/2012/jun/18/art-...

Does art-from-science really add anything?

Art and science. CERN has quite an enthusiastic art program now (as well as a Gormley), but there is a feeling that the scientists at CERN retain a high degree of scepticism, maybe even cynicism, but probably mostly indifference to the activity. Despite having highlighted some science-related art here (for example these colourfield splash paintings) I share this attitude to varying degrees depending on mood, and I wondered why.

Science is undeniably the source of some wonderful images. But speaking generally, the art which has most impact on me usually hints at, and shows back to me, something I have some knowledge of already, and leads me into a different way of thinking about it. This happens with art which is not specifically about science. It may refer to love, distance, location, parenthood, fear... almost anything. This sets off all kinds of echoes in my thoughts and deepens the experience and understanding.

The only piece of art I can think of which ever did this for me with science is a play - Michael Frayn's Copenhagen, which I saw years ago at the South Bank and which still surfaces in my mind at random intervals, especially when I am working with or teaching quantum mechanics. Frayn brilliantly explores a meeting between Niels Bohr, his wife Margrethe, and Werner Heisenberg in Copenhagen during World War Two. Bohr and Heisenberg, giants of the development of quantum mechanics, were long-standing colleagues but on opposite sides.

I will be very grateful if artists at CERN can tell me something about my science.

Copying in art: http://hyperallergic.com/62026/when-is-appropriation-just-copying/?...

http://www.fastcompany.com/3007541/mfa-new-mba?partner=newsletter&a...
Is An MFA The New MBA?
Companies all across America are starting to see a critical talent gap as older employees retire. Arts students may not have all the traditional skills, but they have the most important one: creativity.

http://management.fortune.cnn.com/2012/12/21/what-entrepreneurs-can...

My reply: People are confused. Creativity in various fields differ from one another. Artistic creativity differs from scientific creativity and these two in turn differ from corporate creativity! How well the artistic creativity fits into corporate creativity and how an artist can adapt into an organization's set up is the key issue here. Let us see how the artists can prove themselves as good corporate creators. I am interested to see the results. - Krishna

http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/can-science-be-used-to-critique-ar...
Can Science Be Used to Critique Art?
It's an old opposition: art and science. Not opposition in the sense of conflict, necessarily, but rather in the sense of one appearing without the other. On the face of it, art should transcend the inherent boundaries of scientific validity and truth-seeking. There are rules for being a certain sort of art, but not so much for just being art itself, or for being objectively better art or carrying real meaning better or worse than other art.

So much cultural criticism is even designed to make fun of (or pick apart) the very idea that art (literature, music, etc.) can hold lasting truth. Whereas, science is only interested in things that are true, and it has designed highly rigorous ways of identifying truth in the world.

There's a very deep philosophical rabbit hole that comes along with this line of thinking, but let's just summarize the question as, Is aesthetic taste beyond the scope of science? In other words, can it be said with objectivity that the aesthetic of Celine Dion is worse than the aesthetic of, say, Beck?

Is there a fixed truth, a scientific truth, to that claim? Is that possible? In this snip of a recent Closer to Truth episode, physicist David Deutsch explains why the answer is actually yes. Philosophy, morals, art, and science are only separated from each other pragmatically. We simply haven't found the proper methods of bringing them together. Yet.
By Michael Byrne

A comment on this: Jon Goldman · Master mind at GoldmanArts/Thought Balloon Media

More  comments on the article below. 

sally annett • The general systems for Critiques are derived from Art History, Religion and Philosophy, so it is an interesting slant!

PIerre Berger • I see two points :

1. Paris hosts an important scientific laboratory serving arts, and critics, the C2RMF (see Wikepia). He deals mainly with conservation and authentification. The latter point is of primal importance for critcs.

2. Computer analyses of works of any sort are (and could be more) useful to authentificatino, but also to description, characterization and evaluation (... oops ?) of works. I have elaborated on this point at Laval Virtual 2013. The whole of my diccan.com website is a use of technology for art critic.

Dr. Krishna Kumari Challa • Thank you, Ms. Annet and Mr. Berger, for your replies.Scientists are trying new methods and science is entering new arenas. What is wrong with it? Out right rejection of anything new or science-related shows only the inner insecurities of people. Let us see where this leads to. It is heart-warming to know that art critics like Mr. Berger are already using technology for art critic. People have to be a bit daring and innovative to accept new concepts.

PIerre Berger • There is a general crisis of art critic, specially with plastic arts. But I thinc critic is more necessary than ever, since the production of art is more abundant each year, and we have to choose. Reject scientific methods equals to accept only the market rules, with the domination of big groups (Hollywood) or ultra-rich collectors.

sally annett • My fascination through out is with the language.
Science provides the opportunity to de and reconstruct the terminology as well as the approach - which offers many outcomes and options - personally I would welcome a more inclusive form which has less provision for language to exclude and intimidate!

PIerre Berger • Yes. A useful aspect of science here would be to leave "moral" evaluations (good painting/bad painting) to a more descriptive form of critic, including quantitative parameters and leading to ranking according to these parameters (letting everybody a Kantian liberty to judge for thermselve...)

claudia volders • Dear Dr. Krishna Kumari,
Thinking about your question 'Can Science Be Used to Critique Art?', I will inform you my searching.
Did you ever come into a certain room in a museum, and you only could look at one painting? All the other paintings became invisible, how big even they were. It looked like that one painting attracted so much, like you were in a field of energy which totaly connected to your own. These experiences fascinated me.
So I started to do some work with it. The questions were: can you measure the energy of art? If yes, how? I still don't have the answers, but talking with scientists they all have a meaning that they believe in 'energy of art', and 'yes, you probably can measure it'.
Experiences, infrared camera and heartcoherent which I do, is not enough yet. But very interesting! Maybe anyone has an idea!

Dr. Krishna Kumari Challa • Thank you so much for all these in sights. Yes, Ms. Volders, I have faced the situation of getting attracted to a particular art work in an art gallery. There are various reasons scientists give for this attractions. If you watch Dr. Ramachandran's videos on neuro-aesthetics, Dr Zeiki's ( I hope I got the spelling right) explanations you will get an idea why this happens. I use some scientific visually drawing methods to attract people to some of my works and I have succeeded and people tell me they get attracted to very unattractive themes I use like "Disease in a dish"! This is a challenge and science can make you overcome this challenge. So when people say scientific methods can also be used to critique art, they think they can do it.

Usually questions are about how to sell paintings, so it's a change to have a query about not wanting to sell. I think it's a bit like when you start dating someone, that there's this sequence of expectancy. Dating leads to "Are you serious about the relationship?", to "When are you getting married?", then to "When are you going to have kids", and if you do then to "When are you going to have another?", and so on.

With painting, there's an expectancy that you will sell your work. But you don't have to, and doing so changes your relationship with your art so there's a case to be made for not selling if you're not intending to make a career/living from it. You can paint for yourself, always, and never sell anything. You don't need external verification (i.e. sales) to be an artist.
"But I Don't Want to Sell..."
http://painting.about.com/b/2013/07/30/but-i-dont-want-to-sell.htm?...

http://www.speakingtree.in/public/spiritual-blogs/seekers/philosoph...

Steps you can take to ease the sting of criticism

To become a top performer, you’ll need to open yourself up to feedback from those around you. Here are some steps you can take to ease the sting of criticism and begin to make it work for you, instead of against you.

Hit the Pause Button - It’s important to maintain your composure and not lash back or respond defensively to criticism. Take a breath. Don’t do or say anything. This brief pause not only helps you compose yourself and prepare to listen to what the other person has to say, it demonstrates your poise and self-confidence. Maintaining your composure when criticized shows that you’re in control.

Turn On Your Brain and Turn Off Your Emotions - It’s important to disconnect your automatic emotional response to criticism. Otherwise you won’t be able to objectively consider the value of the information. Focus on the words and facts, not on the feelings they generate within you. Regardless of how undiplomatic the other person is in delivering the feedback, tell yourself that it is designed to help you improve, not to tear you down.

Listen Carefully - Listen intently to what the other person is saying. If you’re busy formulating your rebuttal, you may miss some valuable information that can help you avoid errors in the future or improve your overall performance.

While any criticism can be discouraging, it’s important to keep in mind that negative feedback can contribute significantly to faster growth and higher performance.

http://ericmaisel.com/fine-arts-america/
5 Tips for Dealing with Criticism
5 Tips for Dealing with Criticism

Anyone who puts work on public display invites criticism. What are the best ways to deal with the criticism that may be coming? Read on!

1. Grow a thicker skin

Your prime strategy is to grow a thicker skin and let criticism bounce right off of you. If your skin is very sensitive, you feel every tickle and change in temperature. If you grow your skin thicker—through attitude change and cognitive work—even the rudest criticism will bounce right off of you!

2. Adopt a more philosophical attitude

Accept that criticism is part of life. Accept that criticism is part of an artist’s life. Accept that no one gets through life unscathed and that no one is guaranteed only milk and honey. Accept that life is not fair and that everyone has an opinion. Accept!

3. Learn the dance of attachment and detachment

You want to care about your art, dream of your success, have ambitions and hopes, and in countless other ways “invest” in your identity as an artist. At the same time you must detach and not rise and fall according to how your work is received. This is an intricate dance that requires thought and attention if you are to dance it well.

4. Silence self-criticism

It is one thing if someone “out there” criticizes you. It is another, worse thing if you are already feeling critical of yourself and if criticism from the world amplifies and exacerbates your negative appraisal of yourself. You can’t control what the world says; but you can decide not to bad mouth yourself!

5. Appraise situations correctly

Are you sure that you are even being criticized? If a gallery owner says he is busy and will chat with you tomorrow, maybe he is just busy! Why take that as implicit criticism of you or your work in the absence of any real reason to consider that criticism? Learn to gauge when you are actually being criticized!

Learn more tips in my book Toxic Criticism:

http://www.amazon.com/Toxic-Criticism-Friends-Coworkers-Yourself/dp...

How criticism stops us

http://ericmaisel.com/blog/