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Science and religion:

Q: Which one should we trust : Science or Religion? Which one tells the truth?

Krishna: Imagine this situation...

A huge asteroid colloids with the Earth in the future. Everything here gets destroyed. All living beings. All religions. All the scientific knowledge  written in the books. 

Then  life originates here again and evolves into intelligent beings. Then in the initial stages of its civilization when  it tries, it comes up with  new religious stories with different Gods because it doesn't have any knowledge about present ones! 

But in the later stages, if it tries to gain scientific knowledge, surprisingly it finds that the Earth revolves around the Sun, Earth is round - not flat, realizes gravity and space-time   in the same way as we did! It also finds millions of stars, galaxies and black holes  like we did! 

It sees atoms and molecules and chemical reactions exactly in the same way as we do!

Their 'medical field' evolves similar to ours! Their technology would be similar to the present one. In fact all their scientific knowledge will be similar to ours!

Even if this happens a hundred times the results would be the same each time!

If intelligent life evolves in different parts of this universe, and if it has to have 'religions' in each part, they would all be different to each other - like the different religious stories and beliefs we have in different parts of Earth. But their scientific knowledge would be exactly the same in all the given situations! Because scientific awareness cannot be different in various parts of our planet or universe. 

Why does scientific knowledge remain constant while religion keeps changing?

Can you realize why? If you can, you will understand which one is telling the truth and which one you can trust ... Science or Religion?

Q: What if I prove that religious stories are true?

Krishna: If you prove all religious stories are true using strict scientific methodology, then  they will become science and will no longer come under the realm of  religion!

Q: Why is science often equated with atheism? Why do some scientists believe in God despite zero evidence?

Krishna: Science doesn’t accept something that you cannot provide evidence for. Theism has issues with science because of that. That is why science is equated with atheism.

Another reason could be most of the scientists are atheists and as science is ruled by scientists people assume science is atheist too.

However, some scientists are theists despite no evidence of supernatural because they need some sort of emotional support in their lives as they themselves cannot analyse things fully rationally with the help of their gray matter as it is conditioned by various biases.

Q: How can you earn money by publishing a research paper?

Krishna: You cannot earn money directly by publishing a research paper. On the contrary, you need to spend money to get your research published in open access journals where the readers can download your papers free of cost. 

However, if you are a JRF you will get promoted to SRF with enhanced fellowship if you publish the minimum number of papers required to get it. You can get patents for your research work and sell it to industry or academia. You can publish papers in good journals and prepare projects based on them to get funds. If you are working in the industry/academia, you can cite the number of papers published to get a raise or promotion.

Q: Ma'am how can we check the plagiarism in a paper we've prepared before sending it off for evaluation.

Krishna: You can try these and similar software and sites to help identify plagiarism. If identical texts are found, to verify that it is not a quote, with a reference to the author.

http://mashable.com/2012/08/29/plagiarism-online-services/
http://plagiarism-detect.com/
http://www.plagium.com/
http://www.plagscan.com/seesources/

Q: I have published two papers one year before. I don't know anything about JRF .can you please explain me if u don't mind?

Krishna: Sure. 

Usually fellowships for Ph.D. scientific research have different grades of fellowships. Junior Research Fellowship and Senior Research fellowship. In the first two years you will be a Junior Research fellow. You have to publish at least two research papers in good journals to get promoted to Senior Research Fellowship.

You will find more information here: Insert title here

Q: What is generalization in research?

Krishna: Generalization, is an act of reasoning that involves drawing broad inferences from particular observations. 

It is widely-acknowledged as a quality standard in quantitative research, but is more controversial in qualitative research. The goal of most qualitative studies is not to generalize but rather to provide a rich, contextualized understanding of some aspect of human experience through the intensive study of particular cases. Yet, in an environment where evidence for improving practice is held in high esteem, generalization in relation to knowledge claims merits careful attention by both qualitative and quantitative researchers. Issues relating to generalization are, however, often ignored or misrepresented by both groups of researchers. Three models of generalization, as proposed in a seminal article by Firestone are: classic sample-to-population (statistical) generalization, analytic generalization, and case-to-case transfer (transferability). 

Q: What should a fresh PhD scholar do when his co-authors violate research ethics leaving him as a silent spectator?

Krishna: In such a scenario I would withdraw my name from the paper and complain.

Sooner or later these things will be found and nobody can escape the hawk eyes of the wider scientific community.

Q: What are pros and cons of life without a religion?

Krishna: I don’t think there are any negatives.

The positives are… you take responsibility for everything you do and don’t depend on some old books written some centuries back. You don’t have to fear something above. You have your own reasoning power to guide you- making you strong mentally. You need not waste your time on outdated rituals and use it for the welfare of mankind. You don’t judge people according to your belief biases. You become emotionally very strong.

Q: After reading your reply above I want to ask you the tough Q...religion or science which one do you trust more and why?

Krishna: The answer should be obvious to those who read my reply above ... but I feel you want to put me in a difficult situation... however, sorry to disappoint you I will not get  bothered by these Qs...and my instant reply would be...

Undoubtedly science because it gave me realistic answers to several of my questions. It gave me strength to realize reality and overcome emotions in the right way. Without science coming to my rescue in the right manner, probably I would have become dead matter - both physically and mentally - by now!

Q: How can we convince atheists who are scientists about the existence of God? Most of my friends have STEM PhDs and most of them are atheists. Science make sense to them and “cuz Bible said so” doesn’t cut it. They are awesome and I’m not trying to necessarily convince anybody. However, I often struggle to have compelling arguments in a healthy debate we sometimes have.
Krishna: Difficult to do. Show them God and your friends will trust you.
Don’t just ask them to ‘imagine’ or ‘feel’ him/her (like several people do) because that is no evidence and will not convince the rational minds. Don’t tell stories about others’ ‘experiences’ because they are only their ‘perceptions’ about a situation. Don’t tell creative stories that were written several centuries back when people tried to ‘understand the world around with their limited scientific knowledge and unknown fears that needed a supernatural being to explain them to fill the gaps’ and stories about emotional dependence on something above.
These things will not have any effect on your friends who are true people of science.

Q: With the current available technology, could we come to conclusion on Bermuda Triangle?

Krishna:  Yes, we can. As far as science is concerned, there is no mystery…

Q: Why did the Bermuda Triangle receive so much attention from the media?
Krishna: Just to catch eye balls and traffic!
People get attracted to mystery. Even though science has proved that BT is no longer a mystery, media people try to mislead people by keeping them in the dark.

Q: How do scientists and techies get new ideas for innovation?

Krishna: You have knowledge  in several fields. Then you have some problems. You try to get creative in your mind by bringing the knowledge from several fields to solve these problems. Watch this video that tells us how this process happens in the real world...

What is the difference between delta and estuary?
Krishna: An estuary is a body of water, while a delta is a landmass. Estuaries are places where the river meets the ocean. Deltas are formed by the accumulation of sediments borne by the river.

Q:What is VX?
Krishna: VX is a nerve agent, ethyl ({2-[bis(propan-2-yl)amino]ethyl}sulfanyl)(methyl)phosphinate, a compound outlawed internationally under the Chemical Weapons Convention. It was allegedly involved in the crime of killing Kim Jong-un, half brother of North Korean leader. VX is a yellowish, odourless and tasteless liquid that disrupts the body’s nervous system to lethal effect. Ten milligrams is enough to kill a person through skin contact although it can also kill through inhalation.
VX can be made by mixing O-(2-diisopropylaminoethyl) O′-ethyl methylphosphonite (Agent QL) with elemental sulfur (Agent NE) or a liquid dimethyl polysulfide mixture (Agent NM).

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VX inhibits the enzyme acetylcholinesterase, blocking the breakdown of a neurotransmitter, ultimately leading to convulsions and death


Q:Why are so many scientists atheists/agnostics despite so many miracles in nature?
According to Wikipedia ~93% of scientists are atheist/agnostics. But they should be the first ones to recognize god’s intricate design in DNA, in perfect physical parameters ensuring life here, etc. So despite all these signs, why so many of them become godless? Hope responses of scientists ONLY.
Krishna: Because miracles will be miracles only until they are explained by science. Because science takes time to grow and explain things doesn’t mean miracles remain miracles forever. They will be unraveled sooner or later.
*Miracle:* anything with a probability of less than 20%
DNA and Life are not miracles. They are natural phenomena, and can be expected to appear whenever there is a planet whose conditions duplicate those of the earth.

Q: What kind of evidence do atheists need to believe in God?

K: Just show them God. That ‘s all.

Q: Why wouldn't atheists cheat and steal something because they think there is no God to judge them? How can they keep away from crimes?

Krishna:  Because that would emotionally hurt somebody - a human being just like them! That person might have worked very hard to earn, buy and own something. Atheists think they too can work hard, earn and buy it. Then why should they steal it? 

Can't anybody with a mind think in this way to be good?


Q:What is the role of belief in science? Do scientists believe in science?
What do you call that conviction that scientists have about the scientific method and the models that arise from it? Do they believe in science, trust it, know it? And how does that compare with the analogous process among the religious?
Krishna: I trust in science and don’t blindly believe in it.

Belief is acceptance that something exists or is true, especially one without proof which is against scientific methodology but followed by people who pursue some religions.

My trust in science is based on my experiences. Science gave me several answers to my critical questions, helped me solve several problems. Religious belief failed to do what science did in my life. That is how trust in science has been built.
But still I will have to keep my skepticism alive about science because science itself demands it. It says- always have an open mind about falsifiability.

Q: Why do people turn atheist?

Krishna: Simply because atheists used their grey matter to think critically and found no evidence of things people say exist or happen if you believe in higher authority in the sky! And they had the courage to say what they found and practice it!

Q: What is something about being an atheist that most people don't understand?

Krishna: An atheist’s courage to swim across the tide and take full responsibility for whatever happens!
An atheist’s way of critical thinking.

Q: If atheists are science- minded, why can't they prove that God doesn't exist?

Krishna: First theists have to prove to them that God exists and they will try to falsify it using scientific methodology! :)

When you imagine that something exists, they cannot falsify something that exists only in your imagination. 

Q: In your opinion if God existed what would he be like?

Krishna: If God existed, undoubtedly, he would be a great scientist because he created this universe based on great scientific principles!

Q: Do scientists believe that god created our planet? If god formed Earth then he is the reason behind other planets also..then why can't we live in other planets of our solar system

Krishna: Scientists who think critically and realistically don’t believe that God created Earth because there is no evidence to support that.

Other planets in our solar system do not have conditions that support life but scientists think moons of some planets might contain life-supporting qualities. 

Q: Who invented the world and the universe?

This is what the scientists think ... (watch the video below) ...

Q: Why do scientists believe the universe just popped out of existence without a creator?
Krishna : This is what they think might have happened…

Q: What is a scientifically plausible origin for a God or Gods? 

Krishna: During the earlier times people saw lives with pains, tragedies and sorrows. They wanted some kind of theory which could explain all this. Therefore, they thought about explanations and theories which gradually led into beliefs. These beliefs, which were influenced by the times they lived in i.e., non-scientific reasoning, were products of constant fear of the unknown. Instead of taking on the fear head on and finding permanent solutions, they just escaped into the world of false beliefs that gave them temporary relief. In a world where people clutch at all kinds of straws to make some sense of the madness around them, truth can never be found. Instead of analyzing, examining and understanding why something happens and how it should be handled, they tried shortcuts by bringing unknown and untested factors to interpret things! These beliefs divided people because each person had a different set of experiences and those in turn influenced their explanations and the resultant beliefs based on their mental makeup and situations and not on one truth. That is how different beliefs - both religious and non-religious - originated.

Science and Spirituality

Q: Why did various god cults and religions appear repeatedly throughout the history of mankind alongside scientific approaches at the same time?
Archaeological artifacts suggests that religions appeared throughout history many times, at many places. While scientific analysis is what made us realize that hitting two pieces of flint together will produce sparks and light fire. Both science and religion are part of our human nature?

Krishna : Baseless beliefs take root only when critical thinking fails. People who lack critical thinking abilities believe in several things and take the route of uninformed imagination and never try to find the truth about their mind games.

There is a story… It seems two people stood in front of a cave. Both started imagining what would be inside. The first one thinks about demons, devils and all the evil things inhabiting the insides and harm he would face when he goes inside and just stares at it with fear.

But the other one thinks about beautiful water ways, wonderful lime stone formations, the lively unexplored life inside and dares to enter it. Need I say who this hero is?

Science and religion are part of human nature alright but if you fail to conquer your fear of the unknown, come out of your culturally, emotionally and religiously conditioned mind states, do unbiased reasoning you will never find facts. You will never be able to liberate yourself.

Science and Spirituality

Q: What defines a truly exceptional PhD advisor?
Krishna: The one that brings out the best in his /her student.

Q: If you die and then you are brought in front of God Almighty. If you have to say something to Him, what would it be?

Some human: Lord Russell, what will you say when you die and are brought face to face with your Maker?

Russell: God, why did you make the evidence for your own existence so insufficient?

Krishna: I would ask him or her or it to show me first uncorrupted data to prove that S/he really is the creator of this universe!
Q: Why does science deny religion?
Krishna: Science doesn’t deny religion directly. But the realistic answers it provides to several questions posed by a human mind make religion look like creative fiction written centuries back when human understanding of the world around was in its primitive stage.

Imagine this situation...

A huge asteroid colloids with the Earth in the future. Everything here gets destroyed. All living beings. All religions. All the scientific knowledge written in the books.

Then life originates here again and evolves into intelligent beings. Then in the initial stages of its civilization when it tries, it comes up with new religious stories with different Gods because it doesn't have any knowledge about the present ones!

But in the later stages, if it tries to gain scientific knowledge, surprisingly it finds that the Earth revolves around the Sun, Earth is round - not flat, realizes gravity and space-time in the same way as we did! It also finds millions of stars, galaxies and black holes like we did!

It sees atoms and molecules and chemical reactions exactly in the same way as we do!

Their 'medical field' evolves similar to ours! Their technology would be similar to the present one. In fact all their scientific knowledge will be similar to ours!

Even if this happens a hundred times the results would be the same each time!

If intelligent life evolves in different parts of this universe, and if it has to have 'religions' in each part, they would all be different to each other - like the different religious stories and beliefs we have in different parts of Earth. But their scientific knowledge would be exactly the same in all the given situations! Because scientific awareness cannot be different in various parts of our planet or universe.

Why does scientific knowledge remain constant while religion keeps changing?

Can you realize why? If you can, you will understand which one is telling the truth and which one you can trust ... Science or Religion?

The answer is obvious for a mind that can reason well.

Q: related to the above answer of mine...

To imagine the events you described and say that science would remain fundamentally the same should be obvious, however, to say that religion would not be the same is wrong. There are forces that science cannot currently explain. Religion would develop to explain these forces and would be basically the same as it is now.

Krishna: There would probably be similarities, but it would be highly unlikely that the details would be the same. The names of gods, what the stories claim they look like, things they say and do, etc, would be different. Look how many thousands of gods and god stories humans have thought up so far!

There would be millions of Gods and different creative interpretations about the universe’s origin and a creator - as it has already happened. Here in India alone we have 3000000 (millions and millions) Gods and Godesses. Imagine how many of them we would have in the whole world! So my imagination is not wrong!

Yes science cannot answer some of the Qs. People say science cannot solve all the problems and doesn't answer all the questions human minds pose. True! But think about this: This universe started with a Big Bang ( according to one theory - which is not yet proved!) some 14 Billion years ago. But science is just a few hundred years old. It is still in its infancy. It has to learn a lot, study a lot, think a lot, experiment a lot and then only it can come up with all the answers we are seeking right now. How can you expect a child to solve all the problems of his ancestors? And answer the questions posed by his great, great, great, great grand fathers? Is it appropriate to even expect such a thing? I don't think so. We should be amazed at how we have been able to get so far in understanding the things in this universe despite our inadequacies! Science is doing its best with the limited resources it has to both answer the questions and solve the problems. As the time goes by, I am pretty sure, it will succeed more and more. Please have patience!

Okay if religion can really explain things as well as and as realistic as science does, it becomes science, it will not be a religion any more!

Q: If we keep a competition between God and science who will be the winner?
Krishna: The creator, in case there really is one, himself would be a scientist. The greatest ever because he created this universe in a fully scientific way… naturally s/he follows science strictly in everything s/he does! If the universe is created based on strict scientific principles, you cannot separate the creator from his/her science.
In such a scenario, the creator would have to fight with himself in a scientific way, following all scientific rules like science does! In the end the win comes in a scientific way too like it happens in science. Nobody, not even the creator, can overcome science.
So science is the winner, hands down!

Q asked by a student based on the above reply:

 God is the Creator, he's not a scientist.

Scientists don't “create” things… they simply discover things that were already there.

Was Electricity invented? Were all the materials, the elements invented? No.

God created everything. Even science and it's rules. It's funny that scientists bet on science so much but infact whatever they say is simply mere perception.

Something will be published in science journals and will be considered to be true… after a couple of years, something else will be considered to be true and the old fact will be left because it wasn't as accurate as this… This will continue to happen forever and we wouldn't reach the end of it.

Krishna:  Your reply made me smile. Scientists who believe in God think he is a Scientist-creator, who created this universe using strict ‘scientific principles’, pure and simple. Being a scientist is a state of mind, not a profession. Electro-magnetic radiation, elements, stars and planets and everything here were created using science. Who says scientists don’t create things? What are scientific inventions, then? Scientific inventions - like machines, generators, etc. are brought before the world using knowledge creatively. It involves high ‘creativity’.

Here are examples of how scientists ‘create’ : Scientist Craig Venter creates life for first time in laboratory sp...

Scientists Create Revolutionary Synthetic Life Form

Design and synthesis of a minimal bacterial genome

German scientists create artificial sun to develop renewable energy

Making New Elements ( how scientists create super-heavy elements)

How Can Scientists Create New Elements?

How do scientists create transgenic organisms: Transgenic animals a key tool for drug discovery and development.

Genetically Modified Organisms (GMOs)

How do scientists create or manipulate biomolecules

Tools and Techniques in Biomolecular Science

Five mind-blowing things scientists have created in a lab | Latest ...

Need more examples?

Scientific endeavour is a never ending pursuit, correcting itself all the while. Science advances by improving itself. If you don’t understand this self-correcting process, you will get confused.

People who don’t understand this world of science properly would say anything they want. You are highly confused about science, my friend.

Don’t worry, I could understand you well.

Q: Why would a physics professor believe in God? Although God has never been disproved there is also no evidence to prove he exists, so why would a physics professor who is trained to accept only what can be proven believe in a God. I have seen very prominent professors express belief in God ( this person named some names and they have been deleted)  

Krishna: Yes, there are scientists who believe in ‘something up there’ even though there is no evidence. But they come under minority list.

Some people need external emotional support to cope with life’s issues if they cannot do it with their rational outlook and the resultant mental strength.

Critical thinking is a part of Science training. It has to be with you through out your life, when once you get it. But some people treat it like training in car driving - use it only on the road and forget it when you go home. Some scientifically trained people use their training only in the lab and forget it when they are dealing with other issues in life. And they give all sorts of excuses for doing that.

Anyway religion is a personal thing. As long as people don’t mix up things and don’t say ‘God did it’ like Newton did in the end and put a full stop to their genuine scientific pursuits, we can tolerate it. 

Q: What is the percentage of scientist who believe in God?

Krishna: I have seen several things on several media platforms including some fabricated ‘research’ on this issue. So I don’t trust much of it.

Yes, there are some scientists who believe in God. Percentage?

No reliable information.

Q: Is there any relation between God and science?

Q: How can the relationship between God and science be described?

Krishna: Most people of science don’t believe in a creator because there is no evidence of him or her or it. However, some of those who believe think God is the greatest scientist and therefore, is their colleague!

One famous scientist once said, “Our creator, if there is one, is a brilliant Scientist. Because our creator is responsible for a wonderful and harmonious universe. He is responsible for fusion and fission reactions, time and space, gravity, chemical bonding, production of water and organic compounds, DNA & RNA and life itself. And all the rules that govern this universe were formulated by the creator himself.

This Universe itself is made of strict scientific principles. Scientists are only unraveling the mysteries of our creator. In that case you cannot separate science from its creator!”

Our Creator - The Brilliant Scientist

Q: Do you talk to higher power when you feel down?

Krishna: My critical thinking and rational analysis are the highest powers in my life. You don’ feel down in the first place when you have those powers!

Q: Why do some scientists practice superstitions? For example I read that astronauts from NASA do these things before a space journey...

Astronauts and cosmonauts have superstition based traditions that trace back to the first people to fly in space. For cosmonauts, that would be Yuri Gagarin.  As Yuri walked to his rocket, the chief engineer gave him a smack on the rear end.  That practice is still followed.  Yuri also took a leak on the tires of the bus that took him out there.  That tradition is still followed (by male cosmonauts and astronauts).

Another tradition for cosmonauts, although it doesn't go back to Yuri, is to watch the film White Sun of the Desert the night before launch.  Another more recent tradition is that a Russian Orthodox priest will bless the crew with water.

For NASA astronauts, the traditions go back to Alan Shepard.  Alan had scrambled eggs and steak for breakfast, the day of his flight, so most astronauts do today.

Even here in India ISRO scientists perform various rituals before a space launch. 

Do these rituals help them in any way?

Krishna: I am not surprised. Yes, throughout uncertain times, when stress, risk and death are involved, people tend to depend on external emotional strength and confidence boosters. And these are also the situations where people are highly vulnerable. Naturally during those situations they follow various superstitious practices to boost their mental strength.

How about giving the astronauts and other scientists lessons in critical thinking? I highly recommend this article:

Science's rules are unyielding, they will not be bent in any way fo...

Q: What happens if I prove Science greater than God?

Krishna: It has already been done! How?

Imagine this situation...

A huge asteroid colloids with the Earth in the future. Everything here gets destroyed. All living beings. All religions. All the scientific knowledge written in the books.

Then life originates here again and evolves into intelligent beings. Then in the initial stages of its civilization when it tries, it comes up with religious stories with different Gods because it doesn't have any knowledge about the present ones!

But in the later stages, if it tries to gain scientific knowledge, surprisingly it finds that the Earth revolves around the Sun, Earth is round - not flat, realizes gravity and space-time in the same way as we did! It also finds millions of stars, galaxies and black holes like we did!

It sees atoms and molecules and chemical reactions exactly in the same way as we do!

Their 'medical field' evolves similar to ours! Their technology would be similar to the present one. In fact all their scientific knowledge will be similar to ours!

Even if this happens a hundred times the results would be the same each time!

If intelligent life evolves in different parts of this universe, and if it has to have 'religions' and Gods in each part, they would all be different to each other - like the different religious stories and beliefs we have in different parts of Earth. But their scientific knowledge would be exactly the same in all the given situations! Because scientific awareness cannot be different in various parts of our planet or universe.

Why does scientific knowledge remain constant while religion and God keep changing?

Can you realize why? If you can, you will understand which one is telling the truth and which one you can trust ... Science or Religion?

Why science is greater than anything else.

The answer is obvious for a mind that can reason well.

Q: Why do some great scientists who are highly qualified believe in God? Does a person need to have lots of knowledge in a subject to sense God like some well educated people?

Krishna: You don’t need knowledge to sense God. Several illiterates without much knowledge and understanding about the world around here too do that!

Belief is what happens when your mind thinks you need some sort of external emotional support to balance itself. Then your motivational reasoning shapes up your perception of the world. 

Q: Do you agree with some scientists who say they can 'see', 'feel' and 'sense' God?  

Krishna:  Belief is a personal thing. I can understand it and tolerate it as long as people don’t mix up things and say “God did it” instead of pursuing difficult things with a scientific zeal.

Belief is what happens when your mind thinks you need some sort of external emotional support to balance itself. Then your motivational reasoning shapes up your perception of the world.

But don’t forget even to prove or disprove that God exists, you need science!

Q: How come there are still "evolutionists" around even after Fox News has proven creationism to be a scientific fact?  

Krishna: Because we are not dumb! We know what scientific methodology is and can differentiate between a hoax and proof in reality perfectly well.

Anyway, this shows that  you can fool some of the people all of the time.

Q: What is the thinking of atheists such that they don't believe in gods and believe in science?
Krishna: It is called critical thinking. Scientific analysis. Unattached, fearless, reasoning based on reality, facts and neutrality.

Q: Is science close to disproving that there is no afterlife?  

Krishna: How can you prove or disprove something just based on a belief? Something that doesn’t exist in the first place in the physical world?

You came up with an imagination, which is not an informed one, but a wild one to say a dead person or soul will go to heaven or take rebirth. Then you ask science to prove or disprove it.

Scientists have better things to do than prove a baseless belief.

Anyway, science is trying to explain some things …

How Science Explains Near Death Experiences

Soul?! What is it according to science and scientists?

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Q:Some children claim to see dead/unknown people who aren't there. How can incidents like these be explained with science?  

Krishna: Some children make up things using the stories they hear, while some hallucinate.

According to neuro-scientists, a person whose brain has undergone some change or damage can 'imagine' things of the 'past life' and talk about souls wandering in the sky.

Soul?! What is it according to science and scientists?

Q: What's the best response to the following statement: "You can't just assign the 'soul' to anything that science hasn't been able to explain?"   

Krishna: How do you explain something that doesn’t exist in the first place according to some scientists?

You cannot test baseless beliefs.

Soul?! What is it according to science and scientists?

Q: How do scientists justify their Catholic or other religious beliefs and those of their colleagues?  

Krishna: Majority of the scientists listed here belonged to another era: List of Catholic scientists - Wikipedia

Well, some are still living and working now.

As long as these scientists don’t mix up things and say “God did it” like Newton did in the end and forget scientific methodology, we can tolerate their beliefs. Some people need external emotional support in life to sustain themselves. We understand that.

But think about these things too…

Science and Spirituality

Q: Is it just blackness when we die? Is religion just a coping mechanism for this?

Krishna: This is what majority of scientists think: there is nothing beyond life…

Science tries to strengthen our minds permanently by making us real...

Q: When science does not believe in God, then why is religion available on earth?  

Krishna: Some scientists, not science, don’t believe in God because science didn’t provide evidence till now that a creator exists.

Religion ‘originated’ much before science did. During the earlier times people saw lives with pains, tragedies, sorrows and several things around them. They wanted some kind of theory which could explain all this. Therefore, they thought about explanations and theories which gradually led into beliefs. These beliefs, which were influenced by the times they lived in i.e., non-scientific reasoning, were products of constant fear of the unknown. Instead of taking on the fear head on and finding permanent solutions, they just escaped into the world of false beliefs that gave them temporary relief. In a world where people clutch at all kinds of straws to make some sense of the madness around them, truth can never be found. Instead of analyzing, examining and understanding why something happens and how it should be handled, they tried shortcuts by bringing unknown and untested factors to interpret things! These beliefs divided people because each person had a different set of experiences and those in turn influenced their explanations and the resultant beliefs based on their mental makeup and situations and not on one truth. That's how different beliefs - both religious and non-religious - originated.

Despite immense scientific advancement, some people are still unable to ‘consider, analyse and understand things critically’. Their minds are conditioned by cultures, religions, emotions (mainly fears), politics and several other biases that cloud their thought process. Therefore, they still stick to ‘old ways of dealing’ with them.

Q: Does faith has any bad examples that science despises?

Krishna: Killing your own grand children to appease Gods. 

 Parents trying to murder their children by refusing to allow them to have blood transfusions because of baseless beliefs.

People who believe that Homeopathy is anything other than a placebo.

All the murders committed in all of the Crusades.

People refusing to get their children vaccinated because of their religious beliefs. 

And ... the list can go on and on...

Q: Can we have a better alternative to religion?

Krishna: Yes, science and scientific way of living!

But some people still need a support system. So don’t expect that these people would accept an alternative, even if it is a better one. Nobody is thinking of abolishing religion. We live in democracies, don’t we?

Q: How is science related to religious beliefs?

Krishna: Science is not a belief and never endorses any blind belief system. So it is not related to any religion. But some people try to authenticate their beliefs using pseudo-science.

Some religious heads like HH Dalai Lama, whole-heartedly endorses science which is a good sign. 

Q: From where does an atheist draw strength?

Krishna: Critical thinking and self confidence derived from it!

Q: Do scientists agree that science cannot deal with supernatural?

Krishna: Several scientists I spoke to think that if something exists in nature, you can probe it and explain. On the contrary, if people 'imagine' things or 'invent ideas to fill the gaps', they can't do anything about it and can only dismiss them as irrational. 

Now come to your own conclusion. 

Q: Have you ever preferred a religious ideology or any belief that defied physics or wasn’t compatible with physics, or to be more general, with science? 

Krishna: No, never. I cannot trust something that exists only in peoples’ minds, in their imaginations, one that cannot be felt or seen by me. One that doesn’t exist in the physical world and doesn’t follow the principles set by a scientific world.

Show me something that you imagine, let me feel it like I can feel air, electricity for me to believe in it. Otherwise you can never convince me about its existence. Period!

Q: Why are we expected to oppose superstitions but tolerate religions?
Krishna : Human reasoning takes several routes. It is highly influenced by biases and motivational reasoning. Intuition comes in and corrupts it too using memories of strange kinds and pattern recognition process. But intuition is very limited in its factual basis. Others, like our family members, close friends and relatives, people who we admire and adore, our groups and communities also influence our thought process. Individuals can’t justify their beliefs, but groups are great at justifying things (though not necessarily justifications that would be always right). A little social support from others can generate a lot of confidence and you can confidently go wrong here. :)

We can also reason by deliberating, thinking things through carefully. But we don’t do that very much, and we’re not very good at it as individuals. Unless you are a good independent critical thinker, have the courage to come out of influences, biases and support systems, you cannot free yourself of irrational beliefs.

Nobody can justify an irrational belief properly and correctly.

If you criticize superstitions, you are a hero. On the other hand if you criticize religion, you become a villain.

This is because social groups place religion at the highest level because it has something to do with what they think is the ‘highest authority in the universe’. If you try to fiddle with this thought process or belief system, you will have to face the music.

But at least you are allowed to oppose superstitions. Thank them for it! :)

Irrationality has no real justification. That is why it is called irrational!

Q:Why is it not so obvious to atheist scientists that the universe could not have created itself?

Krishna: Yes it did according to some scientists! This is the explanation they give...  

Q: How can scientists justify atheism?
Krishna: Not all scientists are atheists. Well, according to some scientists who are atheists...
they cannot subscribe to something people imagined or invented to explain things when science was not even 'born'. When people imagine something, tell a story about it and ask them to prove it, they cannot do that. It is the people who put forth a story or their imagination or theory, who should prove what they think is a fact. They cannot go about proving everybody's wild imaginations. They can only explain and prove what really exists.
If you say, this universe couldn't have created itself and therefore, there should be some higher entity to create it, they ask then how could that higher entity created himself/herself or itself?
If God really existed and gave scriptures and holy texts like people say, he should have clearly stated in them how he created this universe using scientific principles. He wouldn't have told silly stories. Those stories are highly imaginative creations of human beings, that's all!
Well points to ponder. Oh, my mind of Critical analysis, I need you here!

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-- https://www.quora.com/Why-does-science-deny-religion/answer/Krishna... Andrew karam: Wow - what a great way to phrase this; one I had never thought of. Thanks! Chiranth Bhoopalam: Surprised as to why this answer hasn't gotten a lot of upvotes! Its explained so well.

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